Interview With Bill Bruford – John Wenlock-Smith

John talks to legendary prog musician Bill Bruford about his days playing with progressive royalty such as Yes, King Crimson and Genesis and much much more:

John Wenlock-Smith: Over your long and illustrious career you have worked with many of progressive rock’s major artists. Which made the biggest impression?

Bill Bruford: With Yes, at the beginning, I was bright-eyed, bushy tailed, arrogant, famously in love with my own abilities, and didn’t know that I didn’t know shit! It wasn’t until I met Jamie Muir in King Crimson in 1972 that I began with music toddler-steps, when Jamie explained to me, none too patiently, that the music didn’t exist to serve me, I existed to serve the music. Who knew?! By the time I’d been through the Crimson mill for a couple of years, I’d learned to calm down a bit, and even not play if the music didn’t call for it. With Genesis I was a sideman from whom fresh ideas or input was not required, so that was easy.  In UK, guitarist Allan Holdsworth had been my suggestion. Brilliant and sensitive as he was, he occupied much of my time just trying to cheer him up and keep him in the band. So I learned from all of these situations. They all made an impression. But I don’t really do superlatives. Life’s too subtle.

JWS: You have played with many excellent bass players.  Who was the best, in your view?

BB: There are many musicians of varying capacity making many choices every day. Some come into your orbit for no reason you can think of, and make a good fit, some less so. All musicians have strengths and weaknesses; some more obvious than others.

As an all rounder who can play anything, from classical to metal, Tony Levin takes some beating. He also has a magical way of making you feel he’s making it up on the spot, as much for his pleasure as yours, even though he may have played it a thousand times before. We share a sense of humour. An interviewer once asked him: “What’s the difference between playing with Bill Bruford and Steve Gadd?” Without a pause, came the answer: “One of them shows up on time”.

JWS: Allan Holdsworth was part of both the original U.K. and the Bruford line ups. How was your relationship with him? Was it a positive one?

BB: Allan was a brilliant musician in many ways, but as a person, he was mercurial, changeable and with low self-esteem. He needed a lot of managing, and it wasn’t always possible to make him happy with the group’s performance or his own performance within it, for that matter. But I’ll go to the ends of the earth for someone who could play that blinding solo on ‘In the Dead of Night’.

JWS: Sadly that version of UK only made one album, were there any other recordings that could be released any live shows ? The original UK could do with an expanded version being issued.

BB: Forgive me, but you’ll know more about this than I. My understanding is that Eddie Jobson now appears to control all rights to the original UK album and has issued as many versions of it as possible, doubtless full of outtakes and alternative versions and the like. He sent me a copy of the ‘Ultimate Collectors Edition’ but I haven’t listened to it.

JWS: You made several albums with Patrick Moraz. What recollections do you have of that period, which saw a change in your playing approach?

BB: In a duo, you have a lot of room to manoeuvre of course, but also a lot of responsibility. The drums have the ability to shape the form of an improvised piece as it’s emerging. For example, on Music for Piano and Drums, the tracks ‘Any Suggestions?’, ‘Living Space’ and ‘Hazy’ are completely improvised. On our second album, Flags, the tracks ‘Split Seconds’ and ‘A Way with Words’ are also improvised. The music may sound as if it’s written, and some of the written music may sound improvised, but that’s our business, not for you to worry about. Some people get nervous if the music just appears, without the benefit (or hindrance) of weeks spent in a rehearsal room. They accord it less value.

JWS: Your latest release (‘The Best Of Bill Bruford – The Winterfold & Summerfold Years’) revisits several eras of your career. How and why did you select the tracks for the set?

BB: Well, you’re looking for a balance of the things you do; a balance between styles, between improvisation or composition, between different eras, between electric and acoustic. The Summerfold and Winterfold labels have about 30 titles between them, so clearly I can only offer what I think is a fair representation of what I consider to be some of the better tracks. There’s music from my 70s band ‘Bruford’, from my duo with Patrick Moraz, from both electronic and acoustic editions of Earthworks over 20 years, and a return to duo music with my second improvising partner, the Dutch genius Michiel Borstlap in the noughties. It’s an excellent package for the newcomer who may have heard my name and would like to hear more.

JWS: You retired from performances for several years but I see that you are involved with a new outfit. What was it about this band especially that caused you to choose to return?

BB: It was a gradual process from complete burnout in 2009, when I couldn’t stand the sight of a drumkit, through 13 years or so in academia, to one day – very suddenly – sitting at some drums and feeling exhilarated all over: urgently and violently keen to start all over. I’d sold all my own drums, years earlier, so I had to go and find a new set and start a daily two-hour daily practice routine.

Then I formed a rehearsal band with Guildford guitarist Pete Roth. Pete had worked as my drum tech in Earthworks 20 years previously . I knew he was an accomplished guitarist, but I was astonished how far he’s come by the time we started working on the highly interactive, jazz-adjacent music and writing that we do today. One thing lead to another through 2023; a few gigs, but only in South-East England. We’re gigging all through 2025 principally in the UK, but also Japan and European clubs and Festivals. It’s a privilege to support and mentor a much younger player, and I get to play whatever I want on the tubs.

JWS: You obviously have a good and realistic approach to curating your own legacy of recordings. Are there plans for any further reissues or releases?

BB: “No plans”, as the politicians say. I’ve downgraded myself from professional musician to amateur. Instead of being a recording artist with an international career and all the hassle that goes with that, I’d rather be simply a performer. I have no wish to generate new music under my own name. I’ve been curated to within half an inch of my life.

JWS: I know you are not a part of the latest King Crimson project, BEAT, but have had any involvement in their construction as they cover the second phase of your King Crimson activities.

BB: I’m in touch with Danny and have let it be known that I’m available should he want any advice, but he has the gig under control. Interestingly, Danny was a keen customer acquiring a ton of Bruford percussion at a huge international yard sale I held. Now you can hear some of my instruments on the current BEAT tour. I was asked to do it, but I declined. I’m no longer interested in large-room repetitive rock composed 40 years ago, when I can have small-room, close-up-and-dirty interactive music, invented today, and still see my grandchildren. I’m low-maintenance and free as a bird.

JWS: What recollections do you have from you days in Genesis?

BB: Genesis was the quintessentially family-minded band. In 1976, we were mostly childless young marrieds, and wives or girlfriends were encouraged on the road. Genesis treated touring as an extension of a trip to Harrods. All necessary requirements were laid on, the partners behaved themselves and didn’t interfere unduly.

They were exceptionally considerate to employees, from the high-status sideman such as myself or, later on, drummer Chester Thompson and guitarist Darryl Stuermer, down to the lowly third drum roadie from the left. Even girlfriends of sidemen were welcomed into the bosom of this extended family, an unheard-of generosity.

Easy, I hear you say, when you’re a loaded and successful rock band like Genesis with private planes and plenty of manpower to help. But this warmly accommodating, family-friendly attitude had existed from the beginning in that particular band – it was just built into the fabric. King Crimson was bleak, spartan, and unwelcoming to outsiders; Genesis was generous and gently accommodating. I loved playing in King Crimson because I had an emotional and intellectual connection to the music we originated. As a sideman in Genesis, I was only called upon to play some one else’s drum parts, so I was easily bored, and didn’t behave well. I’ve been apologising to them for this ever since!

JWS: Do you have any contact with you old bandmates at all?

BB: Steve Howe, Tony Banks, Tony Levin and Iain Ballamy are accessible and we see each other regularly but not often. I can pick up the phone to all my old colleagues and get a warm reception, which I think speaks to a degree of compassion for the man, not just the musician.

Pete Roth Trio tour: Dates and Tickets: https://www.peterothband.co.uk/

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Bill Bruford website www.billbruford.com

Review – Nick Fletcher – Quadrivium – by John Wenlock-Smith

‘Quadrivium’ is the latest solo release from Sheffield based, highly acclaimed guitarist, Nick Fletcher who, as anyone who has seen him can testify, is a very accomplished player who can not only shred with the best of them but is also a player of taste and style. So, it is with little wonder that even Steve Hackett regards him very highly, possibly sensing a kindred spirit and, finding in Nick, a musician who strives to be the best he can be, whatever the situation in which he is found.

Well this album is particularly fine, it is entirely instrumental and it is very fusion focused. Within its tracks you can find many references and nods to those gods of fusion, from Al Di Meola, Alan Holdsworth, Pat Metheny and, of course, Jeff Beck, to point out the obvious ones. There are also a whole slew of others that Nick has drawn upon in his style and playing and this is all put together perfectly into a melting pot with this album emerging as the result. This release is a musical journey that demands listening to as a whole, you need to clear fifty-five minutes in your schedule and settle down to enjoy this masterful slice of fusion pie. It is also an album that uses lots of atmosphere and nuances to punctuate is dreamy sound, in between the bluster there are gentle moments of almost serenity occurring, this gives the album an even pace and allows individual contribution to shine, like the excellent bass work of Tim Harries who is there at every turn, propelling or  pushing the bear along as needed. His sympathetic playing adds greatly to the overall dynamics and sound, he also provides a solid platform for Nick’s fiery guitar flights of expression and frees him to really soar,

This is fusion for today with nods to the past but generally forging ahead in new directions and pathways, it is extremely musically strong and focused. I doubt if you will hear another fusion album that burns this hot, it is almost incendiary such is the firepower contained within its grooves, this is blistering in its intensity and depth of vision. Now, if fusion doesn’t usually grab you then, don’t worry as this is more than just fusion, it has great rock sections as well and some truly jaw dropping guitar playing, enough to make you sit up and even to put away your own guitar in envy. The album has eleven tracks ranging from the very brief Ziggurat Of Dreams Parts One & Two to the longer tracks like Aphelion and The Journey To Varanasi, the songs changing in style, often within the same track.

Nick is aided by several of his good friends like Dave Bainbridge and the aforementioned Tim Harries, who provide excellent keyboard and bass support. On the drums Nick has enlisted Anika Nilles (who was previously in Jeff Beck’s last band and is also a drum teacher and has her own band as well). She is very much an up and coming fusion star in the making and adds strong syncopation and delicacy along with the powerhouse drive as required. Anika is like a young Billy Cobham in style at times, in short, she is a truly exceptional talent and really makes her mark here.

The album has a theme as Nick is very interested in philosophy and especially the works of the Greek masters, Plato, Aristotle and the like. This record is based on Plato’s four noble arts, these being mathematics, geometry, music and astronomy.  Well, the music relates to either mathematics, geometry or astronomy and the whole album is music, the fun is spotting which track relates to which! There  is a lot of fun to be had by doing that, so I won’t actually tell you and leave you to find out for yourself but look at the track titles for clues. The use of Google might be of use in this task, at least you will learn something new in the process.

I always feel that, for me personally, knowing and understanding the background to a music piece aids my enjoyment and enriches it significantly. Not for nothing is the maxim that knowledge is power quoted. However, don’t let the concepts behind the music stop you from listening to this extremely masterfully delivered release, instead let knowledge lead you onwards in your journey from the inner soul to the edges of the universe, life and beyond, onwards into eternity. A very entertaining and illuminating concept for certain but also a very worthy one for our modern age.

There are so many highlights on this album from the gentle introduction of A Wave On The Ocean Of Eternity that had me in mind of Beck’s The Final Peace, with its emotive guitar lines. The Indian styled The Journey To Varanasi has some very heavy guitar parts featured prominently, in all it is a very rewarding listen and does bear repeated listening thereafter as it has many depths to be uncovered as you absorb the music fully. I also appreciate that this album ends as it begins, delicately as the circle is completed.

This album is really rather a revelation in sound as it sounds absolutely gorgeous and is extremely well recorded and produced, with a full and clear production that allows room for everything to be clearly heard. There is excellent definition with good separation between the instruments, alongside which you have really great sympathetic and skilled performances from everyone that all combines to make this an astonishing musical accomplishment. Kudos must also be given to Nicks co-producer Caroline Bonnett who aids him in this crafting so diligently and adds some fine keyboard work too.

‘Quadrivium’ is an absolute stormer of an album, most impressive and very highly recommended and is my fusion album of the year so far. There is so much to discover, to embrace and to enjoy in this mighty fine stew.

Released 15th September, 2023.

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